ATCCT — Summary

ATC — Arguments in Translated Chinese Classical Texts
A Collection

An infinitely rich and varied textual record attests
that
argumentation, persuasion and contention were key elements
in a wide array
of activities central to the concerns of state and society
in China throughout its history.
Hofmann, Kurtz & Levine, 2020


Acknowledgements

Intention: A collection 

Chinese authors cited: Name – Dates – Period

References

Other indications (maps, …)


METHOD

The Translation Issue

               Same analogy, four translations
« To make morality out of human nature is like making cups and bowls out of the willow tree » (MenciusLAU

               Variations of vocabulary
  Righteousness (MengziEno) VS Dutifulness (MenciusLau) = MengziLAU)


THEORETICAL ISSUES

               The Issue of Universals
♦ Empirical universals
♦ A fortiori, a good candidate to universality

             A New Root Metaphor for Argumentation?
The arm of the balance (Graham 1989)

             Argument practice without argument theory (id.)
Syllogisms without predicate logic (id.)
Recourse to paradigmatic cases – An alternative method of exposition 


CRITICISM OF ARGUMENT and NECESSITY OF CONTROVERSY

         Criticism of Argument
MENCIUS, 380 – 300 bce
What people dislike about intelligence…  What one dislike in the clever…”
MenciusENO2016

TCHUANG TZI, 369 – 286 bce
If you prevail over me and I do not prevail over you,does that mean that what you say is so and what I say is not?”
ZhuangziENO2010

               Necessity of Controversy
MENCIUS
How could it be that I am fond of disputation?  (MenciusENO 2016)           


Professionals of Argument: DIALECTICIANS

             The « School of Names and Designations”
Disputers, Dialecticians, Sophists
Fung Yu-Lan

THE RULES

             A Winner-Winner View of Dialectical Exchange
TSOU YEN, 305 – 240BCE
The winner does not fail to make his point  and the loser finds what he is seeking.
Tsou YenGRAHAM1978, pp. 20-21

THE PARTICIPANTS

              The dialectician as a human type
TENG HSI = DENG HSI
Common people, true Sages, great Dialecticians, small Dialecticians and Ideal man.
Teng HsiFORKE 1901

               Choice of a partner
XUNZI
“Do not answer one who asks about something improper”
XunziHUTTON 2016, p. 6-7

               The art of speech: adaptation to the audience
DENG XI = TENG XI c. 545 -501 bce
“With the stupid, the speech must be based on demonstration”
Teng XiFORKE 1901

DISCUSSIONS

               Mencius at pain
MENCIUS
“Do you think Yan ought to be attacked ?”
MenciusENO 2016

               — The dialectical trap
MENCIUS
“Suppose a subject of Your Majesty entrusted his wife and children to a friend and traveled south to Chu.”
MenciusENO 2016


Professionals of Argument: SOPHISTS 

AGAINST PARADOXES

XUNZI, c. 310 – c. 238BCE
“The gentleman does not esteem feats that are difficult but improper. »
XunziHUTTON 2016, p. 16

THE WHITE HORSE DIALOGUE

               The White Horse Paradox : Two translations
GONGSUN LONG, c.320 – 250 bc
Can it be that a white horse is not a horse?

              A quick explanation by Huan T’an, 43 bce – 28 ce
Kung-sun Lung wrote a treatise on « Hard and White » and to illustrate his theory, said that a white horse is not a horse.
Huan T’anPokora  “New Treatise”. Fragment 135A, p. 124.

              The paradox put at test
« When riding a white horse, he wished to pass through the frontier pass without a warrant or a passport » (Id.)           

DENG XI flouts the law through interpretation

             Deng Xi interprets the laws
DENG XI, c. 545 – 501 bce
« Deng Xi added his own construction of the meaning of the laws »
The Annals of Lü BuweiKNOBLOCK&RIEGEL 2000, §18/4.2

              Judge Deng Xi’s service charges
« Deng Xi strove to disrupt things. He made a pact with those involved in litigation. »
Id., 18/4.4

Double-speak and jokes around the Ruler

             The counsellor supports both solutions between which the Ruler must choose
CHUNYU KUN, 4th C. BC
« The king of Wei should join the Vertical Alliance … The king of Wei should join the Horizontal Axis
 »
Id., 18/4.6

             — The counsellor gives the same counsel to both parties
DENG XI
« Do not worry about it. He certainly can sell it to no one else / They certainly will be unable to buy the corpse from someone else.”
Id. 18/4.3


PROFESSIONALS OF ARGUMENT: Persuaders

            Arguments are based on interpretation of facts, not on facts
“You love me so much indeed…”

Ruler and Counsellors

             The ruler seeks a counsellor
SIMA QIAN = SE-MA TSIEN, c. 145 – c. 86 BC
  « Hoang-ti saw in a dream a great wind (fong) sweeping away all the dust (keou)“
Se-ma Ts’ienCHAVANNES

The counsellor at work

             Facing the Prince…
“Rhetoric to the single-person audience”
HUI WU, Preface to GUIGUZIHUI WU 2016

             … and the other counsellors
SHANG YANG, c. 390 – 338 bce
« Duke Hsiao discussed his policy”
Lord Shang YangDUYVENDAK1928

            Virtues of Speech blamed as Rhetorical Vices
HAN FEI TZI, c. 280 – 233 bce
« If his speeches are compliant and harmonious, magnificent and orderly,
he is then regarded as ostentatious and insincere. »
Han Fei TziLIU 1939

            Counsellors Put their Life at Risk
Torture and death for benevolent counsellors of crooked masters
Id.

The counsellor, a quick wit

             Gongsung Long saves the day for Zhao
Lü Buwei, 291 – 235 BCE
“From this time forward, Zhao will support Qin in whatever Qin desires to do”
The Annals of Lü BuweiKNOBLOCK&RIEGEL 2000

The remonstrance as a jest

             Indirectness Allows for Remonstrance
Chunyu Kun, 4th C. BCE

« I saw a man praying for a good harvest and offering one pig’s trotter and one cup of wine.”
Quoted from Wikipedia, Chunyu Kun (22-10-22-2022)


Professionals of Argument: SOPHISTS 

The white horse dialogue

               The White Horse Paradox : Two translations
GONGSUN LONG, c.320 – 250 bc
Can it be that a white horse is not a horse?

              A quick explanation by Huan T’an, 43 bce – 28 ce
Kung-sun Lung wrote a treatise on « Hard and White » and to illustrate his theory, said that a white horse is not a horse.
Huan T’anPokora  “New Treatise”. Fragment 135A, p. 124.

              The paradox put at test
« When riding a white horse, he wished to pass through the frontier pass without a warrant or a passport » (Id.)           

Deng Xi flouts the law through interpretation

             Deng Xi interprets the laws
DENG XI, c. 545 – 501 bce
« Deng Xi added his own construction of the meaning of the laws »
The Annals of Lü BuweiKNOBLOCK&RIEGEL 2000, §18/4.2

              Judge Deng Xi’s service charges
« Deng Xi strove to disrupt things. He made a pact with those involved in litigation. »
Id., 18/4.4

Double-speak and jokes around the Ruler

             The counsellor supports both solutions between which the Ruler must choose
CHUNYU KUN, 4th C. BC
« The king of Wei should join the Vertical Alliance … The king of Wei should join the Horizontal Axis
 »
Id., 18/4.6

             — The counsellor gives the same counsel to both parties
DENG XI
« Do not worry about it. He certainly can sell it to no one else / They certainly will be unable to buy the corpse from someone else.”
Id. 18/4.3


II. ARGUMENT SCHEMES
& OTHER ARGUMENTATIVE OPERATIONS

From the Western Toolbox
Argument Schemes — Means of Persuasion

SYLLOGISTIC ARGUMENTS

             — From the Western Toolbox »The science of the concrete » (Lévi-Strauss)
Name / Category / Definition – Classification – Syllogisme 

             — Categorical Syllogism
WANG CHONG = Wang Ch’ung, 27 – c. 97 
“Man is a thing; No thing does not die
WANG CH’UNG GRAHAM, 1989

             — Syllogism with a Concrete Subject
LIU XIANG, 77 bce – 6 ce
”When the King issues an order to summon someone from the palace, it must be accompanied with a tally” 
Liu XiangBENHKE-KINNEY, 2014

SORITE

« Confucian Sorite »
CONFUCIUS = KONGZI, c. 551 – c. 479 BCE
If names are not right then speech does not accord with things;
if speech is not in accord with things, then affairs cannot be successful
AnalectsENO 2015

ANALOGY

MENCIUS (380-300 bce)
« [Gaozi:] To make morality out of human nature is like making cups and bowls out of the willow tree. »

MOZI (476-390 BCE)
“The wise man who has charge of governing the empire … a physician who is attending a patient …”

LÜ BUWEI (291-235 BCE)
“A dog bears some resemblance to an ape, an ape to a monkey,…”
The Annals of Lü BuweiKNOBLOCK&RIEGEL 2000

NAMES AND ”RECTIFICATION OF NAMES”

CONFUCIUS (551 – 479 BCE)
Let the ruler be ruler« 

PRAGMATIC ARGUMENT

HUAN KUAN
« Profit, moreover, does not fall from Heaven »

A FORTIORI

CONFUCIUS
11.12 Ji Lu asked
about serving the spirits.

HAN FEI TZE
« If someone as close to the ruler as his own consort, and as dear to him as his own son, still cannot be trusted… »

OPPOSITES 

Definition of Opposite Words 

HAN FEI TZE, 281 – 233 bce
“Punishment of error does not avoid the great ministers”

LU HSIEH, 6th ce
“Crime: when in doubt, then deem it light”

 WANG CHONG 27-97 ce
“To build an annex to a building on the west side is held to be inauspicious »

HUAN T’AN, c 43 bce – 28 ce
“If Heaven produces drugs that kill man…”

PARALLEL CASES

« If the mother is favored, the son will be embraced.


AD HOMINEM

MENCIUS
A true worthy tills the soil beside his people, cooking his own meals as he orders the state.’”
MenciusENO 2016

CONTRADICTION

— Inner contradiction as mental confusion

CONFUCIUS
Zizhang asked about […] discerning confusion”
AnalectsENO2015

— Face to face contradiction:

Lack of face to face contradiction as a dialectical deficiency
CONFUCIUS
“There is nothing in my words that fails to please him”
AnalectsENO2015

TCHUANG TZE (–369,-286)
« The Confucians condemned them, but in practice they bowed before them. »

ZhuangziENO 2010

COUNTER-EXAMPLE

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT

MENCIUS
a small child on the verge of falling down into a well…
MenciusENO 2016

MORAL DILEMMA

MENCIUS
“What is more important, sex or ritual?
MenciusENO 2016

PRESENCE

MENCIUS
« You had seen the ox, but you had not seen the sheep.« 

FABLES

MENCIUS
There was a man of Qi
MenciusENO 2016

TCHUANG TZI)
Three in the morning
ZhuangziENO 2010