{"id":10113,"date":"2024-03-30T11:00:16","date_gmt":"2024-03-30T10:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/?p=10113"},"modified":"2025-10-17T11:25:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T09:25:08","slug":"atcct-causalite-coincidence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/atcct-causalite-coincidence\/","title":{"rendered":"ATC Causalit\u00e9 et coincidence"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><em><strong>Does catching a crane cause thunderclaps?<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: #800000;\"><strong>In the Empire there are cranes which are eaten in all the commanderies and kingdoms. Only in the Three Capital Districts does no one dare catch them because of the custom that an outbreak of thunder will occur if a crane is caught. Could it be that Heaven originally favored only this bird? [No],the killing of the bird merely coincided with thunder. (Huan T&rsquo;an\u00a0 (-43, +28) <em>Hsin Lun<\/em> (<em>New treatise<\/em>), fragment 133, p.122)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Huan T&rsquo;an\u00a0 (-43, +28) <em>Hsin Lun<\/em> (<em>New treatise<\/em>). Translated by Timoteus Pokora. University of Michigan, Center for Chinese studies, 1975. <cite class=\"qLRx3b tjvcx GvPZzd cHaqb\" role=\"text\">https:\/\/library.oapen.org<span class=\"ylgVCe ob9lvb\" role=\"text\"> \u203a bitstream.<\/span><\/cite><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">*<\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em><strong>Succession doesn&rsquo;t imply causation<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/cause-effect-the-causal-link-e\/\"><strong>Causal arguments<\/strong><\/a> justify or deny the existence of a causal link between two facts, \u00ab\u00a0B because of A\u00a0\u00bb.<br \/>\nA classic counter-argument to the claim \u201cB, because of A\u201d denies the existence of a causal relationship : \u00ab\u00a0<span style=\"background-color: #ffff99;\"><strong>there is no causality between events A and B, but a simple coincidence<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0\u00bb \u2014 here, \u00ab\u00a0<em>catching a crane<\/em>\u00a0\u00bb and \u00ab\u00a0t<em>hunderclap<\/em>\u00ab\u00a0.<br \/>\nThis fallacy is identified by Aristotle as a <em>fallacy independent of language<\/em>, sometimes referred to by the Latin label <em>non causa pro causa<\/em>, that is, \u201cnon cause as cause\u201d.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does catching a crane cause thunderclaps? In the Empire there are cranes which are eaten in all the commanderies and kingdoms. Only in the Three Capital Districts does no one dare catch them because of the custom that an outbreak of thunder will occur if a crane is caught. Could it be that Heaven originally [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10113","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10113","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10113"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10113\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13138,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10113\/revisions\/13138"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10113"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10113"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10113"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}