{"id":5411,"date":"2021-10-23T12:32:38","date_gmt":"2021-10-23T10:32:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/?p=5411"},"modified":"2025-05-14T13:38:51","modified_gmt":"2025-05-14T11:38:51","slug":"rich-and-poor-e","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/rich-and-poor-e\/","title":{"rendered":"Rich and Poor"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; color: #ff0000;\">RICH and POOR<\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Arguments from wealth and arguments from poverty are two types of arguments from authority. The words of the <em>rich <\/em>are valued &#8211; <em>because they are rich<\/em> &#8211; and the words of the poor are valued &#8211; <em>because they are poor<\/em>. The rich and the poor are then taken at their word, and their words are used as arguments from authority. A speaker can validates a position by putting it in the mouth of a rich or poor person, see <a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/authoritye\/\">authority<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/common-place-e\/\"><span style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\">commonplace<\/span><\/a>.<br \/>\nBoth arguments are common and equally powerful.<\/p>\n<h1><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">The Wealth Argument, or \u201cTop People\u201d Argument<\/span> <\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>The argument from wealth is the basis of a family of discourses that elaborate on the key issue.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">She is rich, so what she says is true. I consider her advice authoritative. She made the best financial decision. She has an exceptional artistic taste, as evidenced by the value of her collections. I vote for her!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This argument easily extends from the wealthy to the upper class, ruling class, and the most <em>glamorous and lucrative<\/em> professions. It could be called \u201cthe top people\u201d argument.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">The Poverty Argument: Appeal to the \u201cPeople Down Below\u201d<\/span> <\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>The poverty argument is similar to the wealth argument. It validates a language of authority derived from poverty: \u201cThe poor are right\u201d:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">The poor are good, because they have no money, and those who have no money have no vice; they are not corrupt; their words are is authentic; they are the repositories of common sense; their opinions are fundamentally sound.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Like the wealth argument, the argument of poverty extends beyond the poor to all \u201cthe people down there\u201d, that is the <em>exploited proletariat<\/em>, the <em>dominated<\/em>, and the <em>lower 10%, <\/em>as well as to the <em>country people<\/em>, who live <em>close to nature<\/em> (naturalistic argument), or to<em> tramps as as wise philosophers <\/em>\u2026 The truth comes out of their mouths, as it does out of the mouths of\u00a0 children.<\/p>\n<p>The saying <em>vox populi vox dei<\/em>, \u201c<em>the voice of the people is the voice of God<\/em>\u201d, which underlies the <em>ad populum<\/em> argument, is based on the <em>poverty<\/em> and <em>number<\/em> argument<\/p>\n<p>These arguments differ from the appeal to money, or the <em>wallet argument<\/em>, which is related to the punishment and reward argument, see <a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/threat\/\">threat and promise<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RICH and POOR Arguments from wealth and arguments from poverty are two types of arguments from authority. The words of the rich are valued &#8211; because they are rich &#8211; and the words of the poor are valued &#8211; because they are poor. The rich and the poor are then taken at their word, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5411","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-non-classe"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5411","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5411"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5411\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14292,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5411\/revisions\/14292"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5411"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5411"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/dicoplantin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5411"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}