{"id":7245,"date":"2024-02-23T16:55:41","date_gmt":"2024-02-23T15:55:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/?page_id=7245"},"modified":"2024-04-22T21:36:41","modified_gmt":"2024-04-22T19:36:41","slug":"pour-commencer-desaccord","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/pour-commencer-desaccord\/","title":{"rendered":"Pour commencer D\u00e9saccord"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"7245\" class=\"elementor elementor-7245\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-0649b63 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"0649b63\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-d8ae570\" data-id=\"d8ae570\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-224e67a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"224e67a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.6.0 - 21-03-2022 *\/\n.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-stacked .elementor-drop-cap{background-color:#818a91;color:#fff}.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-framed .elementor-drop-cap{color:#818a91;border:3px solid;background-color:transparent}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap{margin-top:8px}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap-letter{width:1em;height:1em}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap{float:left;text-align:center;line-height:1;font-size:50px}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap-letter{display:inline-block}<\/style>\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/pour-commencer\/\">Pour commencer : Les rubriques<\/a> &gt; Participer aux discussions<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-4bcef85 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"4bcef85\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4d84161\" data-id=\"4d84161\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2feb056 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"2feb056\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.6.0 - 21-03-2022 *\/\n.elementor-heading-title{padding:0;margin:0;line-height:1}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title[class*=elementor-size-]>a{color:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-small{font-size:15px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-medium{font-size:19px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-large{font-size:29px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xl{font-size:39px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xxl{font-size:59px}<\/style><h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Pour commencer : Le d\u00e9saccord<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-86de472 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"86de472\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-dd75f16\" data-id=\"dd75f16\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-72d3cf1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"72d3cf1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Exprimer son d\u00e9saccord reste toujours <strong>une op\u00e9ration d\u00e9licate<\/strong> pour un locuteur,<strong> m\u00eame s&rsquo;il est natif<\/strong>, car elle peut mettre en difficult\u00e9 le(s) locuteur(s) concern\u00e9(s), voire compromettre la suite de l&rsquo;interaction. En g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, un d\u00e9saccord s&rsquo;accompagne <strong>d&rsquo;explications pour le justifier ou de nouvelles propositions<\/strong> qui pourront conduire \u00e0 un accord qui reste\u00a0 toujours l&rsquo;option privil\u00e9gi\u00e9e dans un \u00e9change.<\/p><p>Il s&rsquo;agit de s\u00e9quences plus ou moins longues <strong>co-construites par les participants<\/strong> qui peuvent faire l&rsquo;objet d&rsquo;une validation finale par plusieurs d&rsquo;entre eux m\u00eame si\u00a0 ce n&rsquo;est pas syst\u00e9matique.<\/p><p>Le lexique ne correspond pas toujours \u00e0 ce qu&rsquo;on pourrait attendre, on retrouvera en particulier rarement \u00ab\u00a0je ne suis pas d&rsquo;accord\u00a0\u00bb mais davantage <strong>des marqueurs ou des r\u00e9p\u00e9titions de ce qui vient d&rsquo;\u00eatre dit en le modifiant<\/strong>, avec des intonations diff\u00e9rentes, des regards ou des gestes.<\/p><p>Dans cette section<b> Pour commencer<\/b> nous allons d\u00e9tailler 2 exemples co-construit.<\/p><p>Vous trouverez d\u2019autres exemples dans la rubrique compl\u00e8te\u00a0<strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/desaccord\/\">Le d\u00e9saccord<\/a><\/strong> , d&rsquo;autres attestations sont disponibles dans la rubrique <a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/evaluation\/\"><strong>L&rsquo;\u00e9valuation<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-8808437 elementor-section-stretched elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"8808437\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;stretch_section&quot;:&quot;section-stretched&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f4424d6\" data-id=\"f4424d6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1f56017 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1f56017\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h4 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">D\u00e9saccord sur une proposition \n qui se co-construit jusqu'\u00e0 un accord final<\/h4>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4f51fe2\" data-id=\"4f51fe2\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0ffe5f6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"0ffe5f6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">D\u00e9saccord avec des explications<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-60e39b9 elementor-section-stretched elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"60e39b9\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;stretch_section&quot;:&quot;section-stretched&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-bcabf1b\" data-id=\"bcabf1b\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a750d3 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1a750d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span class=\"textstyle21\"><strong><span class=\"textstyle18\">D\u00e9saccord avec une suite de marqueurs \u00ab\u00a0ah ouais non mais\u00a0\u00bb, lexique n\u00e9gatif \u00ab\u00a0tu peux pas\u00a0\u00bb \u00ab\u00a0c&rsquo;est pas possible\u00a0\u00bb \u00ab\u00a0faut pas r\u00eaver\u00a0\u00bb<\/span><\/strong><span class=\"textstyle2\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-47c16bb elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"47c16bb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.6.0 - 21-03-2022 *\/\n.elementor-widget-image{text-align:center}.elementor-widget-image a{display:inline-block}.elementor-widget-image a img[src$=\".svg\"]{width:48px}.elementor-widget-image img{vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block}<\/style>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-content\/uploads\/audio-e1645197811992.png\" title=\"audio\" alt=\"audio\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fff8148 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"fff8148\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span class=\"textstyle21\"><em><strong><span class=\"textstyle18\">\u00ab\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/em><em><strong><span class=\"textstyle18\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/pour-commencer-desaccord-menuiserie-pas-possible\">il y en a un qui saurait le faire oui &#8230;ils sauront pas&#8230;ah ouais non mais tu peux pas les laisser tout seuls c&rsquo;est pas possible hein faut pas r\u00eaver hein\u00a0\u00bb<\/a><br \/><\/b><\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p><p>(Menuiserie)<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f4a1a7f\" data-id=\"f4a1a7f\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1918ce1 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1918ce1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span class=\"textstyle21\"><strong><span class=\"textstyle18\">D\u00e9saccord sur une solution<em> \u00ab\u00a0je vais avoir du mal\u00a0\u00bb <\/em>et <em>\u00ab\u00a0oui non mais c&rsquo;est pas\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/span><\/strong><span class=\"textstyle2\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-53d28a1 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"53d28a1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-content\/uploads\/video.png\" title=\"video\" alt=\"video\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ecc1382 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ecc1382\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em><strong><span class=\"textstyle19\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/pour-commencer-desaccord-architecte-escalier-pas-tres-confortable-oui-non-mais\">\u00ab\u00a0l\u00e0 je vais avoir du mal &#8230; mais si&#8230;on va voir&#8230;\u00a0 oui non mais c&rsquo;est pas\u00a0\u00bb<\/a><\/b><\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p><p><span class=\"textstyle20\">(Architecte)<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-ffc2a6e elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"ffc2a6e\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-c2d11a3\" data-id=\"c2d11a3\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a679ca elementor-button-info elementor-align-left elementor-widget__width-inherit elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"1a679ca\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/pour-commencer-le-desaccord-exercices\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"elementor-button-link elementor-button elementor-size-sm\" role=\"button\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Les exercices : \u00e0 vous de jouer !<\/span>\n\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pour commencer : Les rubriques &gt; Participer aux discussions Pour commencer : Le d\u00e9saccord Exprimer son d\u00e9saccord reste toujours une op\u00e9ration d\u00e9licate pour un locuteur, m\u00eame s&rsquo;il est natif, car elle peut mettre en difficult\u00e9 le(s) locuteur(s) concern\u00e9(s), voire compromettre la suite de l&rsquo;interaction. En g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, un d\u00e9saccord s&rsquo;accompagne d&rsquo;explications pour le justifier ou de [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/7245"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7245"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/7245\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8040,"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/7245\/revisions\/8040"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/icar.cnrs.fr\/interfare\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7245"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}