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Arguments in Translated Chinese Classical Text

ATC

Une collection de passages argumentatifs traduits du chinois


NOTES PRÉLIMINAIRES

Intention: Y a-t-il une alternative à Toulmin?”  — Recours à la Chine

Méthode: La question de la traduction
Deux traductions d’une analogie

Auteurs / Textes
Dates —

À l’échelle du temps

Conventions

Références

ARGUMENT: CONCEPT/S and ROOT METAPHORS

Graham (1989) :A new root metaphor for argumentation

Le bras de la balance

Graham (1989): Practical logic without logical theory

♦ Syllogisms without predicate logic

Arguing without argumentation theory An alternative method

Recourse to paradigmatic cases

 

RHÉTORIQUE DU CONSEIL

“Rhetoric to the single-person audience”
Hui Wu, Preface to Guiguzi (2016)

DIALECTIQUE, DIALECTICIENS

Many questions
Dialectical rule : Explicitness contextual /implicitness

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
“Do you think Yan ought to be attacked ?”
MenciusENO 2016

Règle du débat dialectique

TSOU YEN (-305 -240)
The winner does not fail to make his point, and the loser finds what he is seeking” (Tsou YenGRAHAM 1978, p. 20-21)

A dialectical trap

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
“Suppose a subject of Your Majesty entrusted his wife and children to a friend and traveled south to Chu”

(MenciusEno)

Le dialecticien comme type humain

TENG HSI (~-545 -501)
Common people, true Sages, great Dialecticians, small Dialecticians and Ideal man.
(Teng HsiFORKE)


CRITICISM OF ARGUMENT

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
What they dislike about intelligence…  What one dislike in the clever…”
(MenciusENO 2016)

TCHUANG TZI  (~–369 ~-286)
♦ “
If you prevail over me and I do not prevail over you,does that mean that what you say is so and what I say is not?”
ZhuangziENO 2010)


NECESSITY OF CONTROVERSY

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
How could it be that I am fond of disputation? 
(
MenciusEno)

RÈGLES DU DÉBAT

TSOU YEN (-305 -240)
The winner does not fail to make his point  and the loser finds what he is seeking. (Tsou YenGRAHAM1978)

LES CADRES DE L’ARGUMENTATION

DENG XI (~-545 -501CK)
“With the stupid, the speech must be based on demonstration”
(Deng XiFORKE 1901)

XUNZI (~-310 ~-238) 
“Do not answer one who asks about something improper”
(XunziHutton)


SCHÈMES ARGUMENTATIFS

Schèmes argumentatifs — Moyens de persuasion
Empirical Universals

SYLLOGISM

NOTE: A family of Western / Aristotelian Argument shemes
Arguments on the name : Naming / Categorizing – Defining – Grouping (Classifying) – Syllogizing

Syllogisme catégorique

WANG CH’UNG (~-27 ~–97)
“Man is a thing […]. No thing does not die
WANG CH’UNG GRAHAM

Syllogisme à sujet concret

LIU XIANG (-77 +6)
♦ ”When [the King] issues an order to summon someone from the palace, it must be accompanied with a tally”
Liu XiangBENHKE KINNEY 2014

Rectification of Names

CONFUCIUS (-551,-479)
♦ ”
A gourd that is not a gourd – is it a gourd?”
AnalectsENO
2015

CONTRADICTION

CONFUCIUS (-551,-479)
Zizhang asked about […] discerning confusion”
AnalectsENO2015

CONFUCIUS (-551,-479)
“There is nothing in my words that fails to please him”
AnalectsENO2015

TCHUANG TZE (–369,-286)
“they [the Confucians] condemned them, but in practice they bowed before them

ZhuangziENO 2010

AD HOMINEM

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
A true worthy tills the soil beside his people, cooking his own meals as he orders the state.’ ”
MenciusENO 2016

ANALOGY

MOZI (~ -476, -390)
“The wise man who has charge of governing the empire … a physician who is attending a patient …”

LÜ BUWEI (-291,–235)
“A dog bears some resemblance to an ape, an ape to a monkey,…”


“SORITE CHINOIS”

CONFUCIUS (-551,-479)
« Si les noms ne conviennent pas aux choses, il y a confusion dans le langage  
S’il y a confusion dans le langage, les choses ne s’exécutent pas. Si les choses ne s’exécutent pas…”
AnalectsENO2015

Note: Sorite et polysyllogisme

ARGUMENT PRAGMATIQUE

« Le profit ne tombe pas du ciel »


VARIÉTÉ DES FORMES ARGUMENTATIVES

L’ARGUMENT MÉPRISÉ

LÜ BUWEI:
Gongsun Long
, le cheval blanc et le garde frontière

PA KIN, Famille :
Rire de Talent Prometteur


EFFET DE COMPOSITION

LÜ BUWEI,
“I am definitely able to cure paralysis”
 “Eaten separately, scorpions or aconite are lethal …”


ARGUMENTS PAR LES CONTRAIRES

HAN FEI TZE (~-281, -233)
“À mère aimée, fils chéri”
“Punishment of error does not avoid the great ministers”

LU HSIEH (6th C)
“Crime: when in doubt, then deem it light”

 WANG CHONG (27-97),
“Construire une aile à l’ouest porte malheur”

HUAN T’AN (ca. -43, 28),
“If Heaven produces drugs that kill man…”


ARGUMENTS EXPLOITANT L’HOMONYMIE OU LA PARONYMIE

CONFUCIUS, ”The benevolent man is loath to speak”

MENCIUS
“Then the nature of a hound would be the same as the nature of an ox?
MenciusENO 2016


EXPÉRIENCE DE PENSÉE – THOUGHT EXPERIMENT

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
a small child on the verge of falling down into a well…
MenciusENO 2016


DILEMME MORAL

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
“What is more important, sex or ritual?
MenciusENO 2016

FABLES

MENCIUS (-380 -300)
There was a man of Qi
MenciusENO 2016

TCHUANG TZI  (~–369 ~-286)
Three in the morning
ZhuangziENO 2010

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